Hi V G, of course you can write a truthful message, and messages such as this can help others. I’m sorry to hear your cat was sick on Feline Natural, and I hope other cats haven’t been affected.

Should I leave a truthful message? I was just reading Feline Natural freeze dried Beef and Hoki. I expected high quality ingredients 100% especially they say it’s worth the high cost. I don’t buy it anymore for whatever reason my cat started to vomit it, plus she doesn’t even go near it.
Anyway, I don’t like the Sunflower oil, and you even added Canola oil….Cooking oil? Can you not do better for the money, like salmon oil.
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If you give bone broth which is pretty much full of glucosamine and chondroitin, hyularonic acid and collagen, than give extra collagen with rosehips, colostrum and MSM. These do work, my girl has luxating patellas on both back legs, since being on these she hasn’t been in pain. She screams with even the tiniest pain, so since she hasn’t screamed, she mustn’t be in pain anymore.

One thing I can say for certain doesn’t work is green lipped mussels. Tried for 3 months what a waste of time.

I use Bioglan joints plus and this works for me too. So I do think that some do work, I think the issue is finding what works for you and your pets (unique) body chemistry.

Because for some people nothing works, whilst for others the cheapest stuff works.

Also noted that joint oils for people don’t work, but for dogs they do. But maybe cause the dog ones are like the absolute best quality, whereas the human ones are usually the cheapest to produce and the worst quality. To get the quality stuff you have to pay like 4x more, not meaning you’ll get any benefit regardless.

Now actual joint supplements inside of foods are useless, never noticed any effect. I think the amounts are honestly just too small. Small dogs require a minimum 500mg glucosamine and than 1000mg for medium and 1500mg for large. Dog foods are usually around 400mg per kilo of food. They need 500mg a day, so if a small dog only eats 100g that’s only 40mg per day. No wonder it has zero effect. Even Orijen wouldn’t meet the minimum daily for small dogs.

Best to just buy a supplement with like 4-5 different joint stuff in it and give the minimum over a 3 month period (minimum time). Because at least that way they get the full dose per day and it may actually work. Even the vet joint stuff doesn’t have enough for the minimums.

Glucosamine is used to treat arthritis in humans as well as often being recommended by vets, but that said with any ingredient in pet food it’s often hard to ascertain whether there’s any real benefit, or any real benefit to a specific dog. Questions such as “is there enough of the ingredient to provide benefit”, “is it a quality inclusion of the ingredient”, or “is the research sufficient” are all valid and can be speculated upon. In the case of glucosamine you could well be right given this page on the National Center for Complementary and Integrative Health (US) states “Major studies of glucosamine for osteoarthritis of the knee have had conflicting results.”.

Hi Jane, no wet food reviews as yet but generally if the “dry” food is rated highly then the wet variety will be equal (or better). Both Ziwipeak and Feline Natural wet foods are really good (with a price tag to match), and there’s no reason you shouldn’t feed one, the other, or both!

Well at the end of the day flaxseed always helps with skin and coat but fish definitely helps better, without kelp they would need to supplement with synthetic vitamins so I prefer the kelp, I’d imagine it’s similar to the dry seaweed I eat tastes awful but full of vitamins and minerals you may not get often enough.

Not sure why they decided to use canola oil though, the dog formulas use sunflower oil which is better but olive oil is best.
There’s a dog food out there that puts like 500ml of olive oil in each big bag of kibble, not sure how much is in the smaller bags, but that’s a lot regardless.
Ziwipeak canned used to have olive oil, after the change they no longer do 🙁

The new ingredient list for the Chicken/Lamb:
Chicken, Lamb Heart, Lamb Kidney, Lamb Liver, Lamb Blood, Flaxseed Flakes, New Zealand Green Mussel, Dried Kelp, Vitamin E Supplement, Zinc Proteinate, Canola Oil, Manganese Proteinate, Thiamine Mononitrate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Folic Acid.